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the green belt was created in 1955

Poppy Cleary

as George Buskell already outlined, we live in a very different society

Poppy Cleary

the green belt isn't necessarily a thing

Poppy Cleary

the green belt is manmade

the green belt is created by humans

we can tear the green belt up and remake a different policy better-suited to our needs

you can tear the green belt up and remake a different policy better-suited to our needs

developers are arguing all the time that we can tear the green belt up and remake a different policy better-suited to our needs

the only people who actually argue for development on the green belt are developers

developers actually want to increase their profit margins

common sense says you don't want to pay for the countryside next door to where most of your urban population live

developers do want to tear it up

it's a constraint

it's been a very successful constraint

if it's a constraint, we should take away the constraint that should stop affordable houses being built in the right places

it's not just about creating the homes for people who want them, but they need to be in the right area

Tom Fyans would love that to be the right case in some ways

we don't have a housing market that's delivering affordable homes

developers want the green belt

the green belt is cheap

developers are not bothered by the environmental benefits that we have as users when we use the green belt

if the green belt is cheap, than certainly by opening up the entire area, you're gonna create the idea and the ability to create affordable homes in that area

by opening up the entire area, we could create the idea and the ability to create affordable homes in that area if we had a house building sector that could build houses

we've built less than 200 thousand homes a year consistently for the last 10, 20 years

we're just not building the houses

there's a constraint in supply

the constraint in supply is often made intentionally by some of the developers

there's a skill shortage

there's a material shortage

there is just not the model at the moment

councils are not allowed to borrow money to build social or affordable housing

we've got a problem

Tom Fyans is not disputing we've got a serious affordability problem

it's not really the green belt is often the easy bogeyman

it's just not true that the green belt is the easy bogeyman

if you opened up the green belt area that is so valuable to many people, that the housing market would adapt itself to enable affordable houses to be built in the areas that people want to live in

Tom Fyans doesn't think that if you opened up the green belt area that is so valuable to many people, that the housing market would adapt itself to enable affordable houses to be built in the areas that people want to live in

when you get planning permission on a piece of land, it goes up in value about 300 times

that's a land market problem that we've got

that's an economic problem

communities don't benefit from that

the landowner benefits from that

then the developer benefits from that by then building unaffordable houses

community don't benefit at all

you don't get that support for that type of housing in communities across the country at the moment